Episode 6 - First Females Podcast
Climbing Higher: A Conversation with Saray Khumalo
In the latest episode of First Females, I had the pleasure of speaking with Saray Khumalo, a mountaineer, businesswoman, and changemaker who became the first Black African woman to summit Mount Everest.
Saray’s story goes well beyond the summit. It’s about persistence in the face of failure, broadening the definition of leadership, and making space for others on the journey.
The Path to the Summit
Saray didn’t summit Everest on her first attempt - or her second, or even her third. Her journey to the top took four attempts, each filled with setbacks, soul-searching, and hard-won lessons. But in 2019, she stood on the roof of the world, carrying not just a flag, but the hopes of many who had never seen themselves represented in mountaineering.
She describes Everest as “a gift that keeps on giving” - a teacher that revealed her inner strength and showed her what’s possible when you dare to begin. Even now, years later, Saray continues to draw strength and wisdom from her experiences on that mountain.
The Power of Representation
We spoke about how Everest symbolises so much more than altitude. For Saray, it unlocked a deep sense of purpose and became a platform for inspiring others to aim higher. She’s passionate about showing what’s possible - ensuring others can see themselves on the mountains, in boardrooms, and in every space that has historically excluded them.
Honouring Junko Tabei
Saray also reflects on the legacy of Junko Tabei and the 1975 Japanese Women’s Everest Expedition. She celebrates Junko’s courage not just as a climber, but as a pioneer who proved that women belong in high places.
“For me she represented opening up the mountain for everybody. Greatness is not for the select few. Greatness is for all. She was an amazing pioneer. You know, it just said you don’t have to climb the mountain like a boy. You can climb it like a girl and get it done.”
She shared how important it was for the 1975 team to make a statement - and how today, we must build on that legacy by continuing to break barriers with inclusion.
Redefining Leadership
We also explored Saray’s thoughts on female leadership, motherhood, and finding balance. Having grown up among seven sisters and now raising two sons, she’s deeply aware of the need to empower girls without leaving boys behind.
“We’re not here to alienate people - we’re here to be inclusive, so we can create a stronger world for everybody.”
The Climb Continues
Since summiting Everest, Saray has continued to lead with purpose - through her work in education, social development, and the outdoors. In our conversation, she shared how the lessons from the mountains have shaped her as a leader, a parent, and an advocate for change.
Her story is one of resilience, conviction, and expanding what leadership looks like. It’s a reminder that the path to the summit often begins with showing others that the climb is possible.
Listen to the episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and Amazon Music.
You can continue follow Saray’s adventures on:
Instagram: @saraykhumalo
Website: www.saraykhumalo.net
Facebook: @saraynkhumalo